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TV licensing - Her Most Regal Majesty, the Queen of Snark
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sesquipedality
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TV licensing
Gods TV licensing is a bloody poorly conceived tax.

Got the usual letter through today about how all people who don't have TV licenses are evil spongers and we'll be sending the boys round unless you fess up, you slag. It's so hard to be civil to these people but phoned them up to say "no, I have no TV receivers in my house".

Apparently they will send someone around to visit to confirm this. At this point, I felt obliged to tell them that although they can come around, I'm not willing to let them in. Doubtless I am now flagged as a trouble maker and will be thoroughly hassled by them from now on.

I did manage to stay polite at least. But the whole way they approach licensing just drives me crazy.

ETA Just to be clear - although I own computers, a DVD player and an LCD projector, none of these is capable of receiving a TV signal. Under UK law I do not need a license. The idea that someone expects me to let them into my home to prove this to them is just plain wrong and contrary to the principle enshrined in UK law of the assumption of innocence until proven guilty.
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From: bibliogirl Date: May 10th, 2007 03:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
Did the letter actually _ask_ if you have a TV? I have a friend who does not have a TV and who ignores all letters from TV Licensing unless and until they actually specifically ask the question. Otherwise he figures it's not worth the aggravation of dealing with them when he doesn't have to.
sesquipedality From: sesquipedality Date: May 10th, 2007 03:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't want the letters. It's worth the hassle of dealing with them if it gets them to stop bothering me. Big if though.
From: bibliogirl Date: May 10th, 2007 03:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
From his experience, telling them you don't have a TV will hold them off for about a year, at which point they'll start hassling you again.
angoel From: angoel Date: May 10th, 2007 03:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have decided that the easiest method is to drop anything from TV Licencing into the bin unread. Works for me.
taimatsu From: taimatsu Date: May 10th, 2007 07:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have ignored all letters from them since I moved here, which just over a year now, and they haven't turned up on the doorstep yet.
mair_aw From: mair_aw Date: May 10th, 2007 09:29 pm (UTC) (Link)
they don't ask. they write a letter in a font a foot high saying "you are naughty!" and then put a footnote in small print on the back saying "oh, if you don't actually have a TV, please drop us a line".
mentalfirewall From: mentalfirewall Date: May 10th, 2007 03:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
We got a few letters like that since we don't have a TV either. I phoned them up to say 'look, we have no TV - get over it!' (well, words to that effect but polite) and they too said that they would have to send someone over to verify it. Good luck to them finding a time when i'm in and it'd be pointless to give advanced notice. Surfice to say, 9 months on, they never came calling and the letters have stopped.
zenmeisterin From: zenmeisterin Date: May 10th, 2007 03:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
They probably won't actually come around to check. I'm in the same situation and have been for the last couple of years. A letter to explain that I cannot receive terrestrial TV and have not subscribed to the telewest cable that's wired in, and that's that.

The entire building is very much signal proof and there's no external arials. The sky dish is for the flat next doors and we have no signal in the cable because we aren't subscribed. They've probably figured that it's not even worth wasting their own time coming to check.
jo_english_bint From: jo_english_bint Date: May 10th, 2007 04:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
I wonder if it's largely due to the fact that it's quite unusual for people not to have TV in this day and age!!!
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thegreenman From: thegreenman Date: May 10th, 2007 04:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Relevent bit by a solictor from the leaflets section on this site

"They can only come into your home if you let them in (Can I inspect the set?),
or if a magistrate grants them a search warrant"


tea_and_cuddles From: tea_and_cuddles Date: May 11th, 2007 11:19 am (UTC) (Link)
At some point, the fact you have broadband and a computer capable of downloading and showing live video, will render you liable to get a TV license - if they still have the TV license then! It's reception equipment. But they haven't done that yet.

We didn't have a license in my last-but-one house because we had no tuned TV receivers. But we still watched a lot of TV, including BBC - downloaded. We considered getting a license anyway as we were in the spirit of it, if not the letter, and we like and support the BBC. But we didn't because we were cheapskates like everyone else.
sesquipedality From: sesquipedality Date: May 11th, 2007 08:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
Certainly I feel as though perhaps I ought to be paying for BBC Radio, since I do listen to Radio 4 and 6 Music quite often. However, there isn't a separate radio license nor a legal requirement to have one.
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